Por que


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eu suponho que

P(A|B)=P(A|B,C)P(C)+P(A|B,¬C)P(¬C)

está correto, enquanto

P(A|B)=P(A|B,C)+P(A|B,¬C)

está incorreto.

No entanto, tenho uma "intuição" sobre a mais recente, ou seja, você considera a probabilidade P (A | B) dividindo dois casos (C ou Não C). Por que essa intuição está errada?


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Aqui está um exemplo simples para testar suas equações. Atire duas moedas justas e independentes. Seja A o evento em que o primeiro aparece, B seja o evento em que o segundo aparece e C seja o evento em que ambos aparecem. É qualquer equação que você escreveu correto?
A.Rex

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A lei da probabilidade total diz que se você deseja expressar uma probabilidade incondicional como uma soma de probabilidades condicionais, deve ponderar pelo evento de condicionamento: por exemplo, P(A)=P(A|B)P(B)+P(A|B¯)P(B¯)
Adamo

Respostas:


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Suponha-se, como um exemplo contador fácil, que a probabilidade P(A) de A é 1 , independentemente do valor de C . Então, se tomarmos a equação incorreta , obtemos:

P(A|B)=P(A|B,C)+P(A|B,¬C)=1+1=2

Obviamente, isso não pode estar correto, provavelmente não pode ser maior que 1 . Isso ajuda a criar a intuição de que você deve atribuir um peso a cada um dos dois casos proporcionalmente à probabilidade desse caso , o que resulta na primeira equação (correta). .


Isso o aproxima da sua primeira equação, mas os pesos não estão completamente corretos. Veja o comentário de A. Rex para obter os pesos corretos.


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Os pesos na "primeira equação (correta)" devem ser P(C) e P(¬C) ou devem ser P(CB) e P(¬CB) ?
A.Rex

@ A.Rex Esse é um bom argumento, para total correção, acho que deve ser e P ( ¬ C | B ) . Tudo (apenas um termo) no lado esquerdo da equação pressupõe que B seja dado; portanto, sem nenhuma premissa adicional (como assumir que B e C são independentes um do outro), o mesmo deve ser o caso à direita lado -handP(C|B)P(¬C|B)BBC
Dennis Soemers

Pense em A | B tendo 200% de certeza de que isso acontecerá.
Mark L. Stone

@ MarkL.Stone Isso significa que sempre acontece duas vezes? ;)
Restabelece Monica

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A resposta de Dennis tem um ótimo contra-exemplo, refutando a equação errada. Esta resposta procura explicar por que a seguinte equação está correta:

P(A|B)=P(A|C,B)P(C|B)+P(A|¬C,B)P(¬C|B).

Como todo termo é condicionado em , podemos substituir todo o espaço de probabilidade por B e soltar o termo B. Isso nos dá:BBB

P(A)=P(A|C)P(C)+P(A|¬C)P(¬C).

Então você está perguntando por que essa equação tem os termos e P ( ¬ C ) .P(C)P(¬C)

A razão é que é a porção de um em C e P ( A | ¬ C ) P ( ¬ C ) é a porção de uma em ¬ C e a dois adicionar-se a um . Veja o diagrama. Por outro lado, P ( A | C ) é a proporção de C contendo A e P ( AP(A|C)P(C)ACP(A|¬C)P(¬C)A¬CAP(A|C)CA é a proporção de ¬ C contendo um - estas são as proporções de diferentes regiões, de forma que não têm denominadores comuns, de modo adicionando-lhes é insignificante.P(A|¬C)¬CA

pic


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Not "everything is conditioned on B". In particular, P(C) and P(¬C) are not, so you can't just drop B. Moreover, this might suggest the equation is wrong!
A. Rex

@A.Rex Technically you're right, I should have said every term involving A is conditioned on B (I made a simple substitution A|BA). I will correct the answer.
Reinstate Monica

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My objection wasn't a technicality. Your diagram correctly proves that P(A)=P(AC)P(C)+P(A¬C)P(¬C), which after conditioning on B becomes P(AB)=P(AB,C)P(CB)+P(AB,¬C)P(¬CB); note that the probabilities of C and ¬C are also conditioned on B. This is not the first equation given in the OP, which is good news, because the first equation given in the OP is not correct.
A. Rex

@A.Rex You are right once again, C must also conditioned on B as the proportion of the probability space contained in C might not be the same as the proportion of B contained in C. This point escaped me. I will revise again.
Reinstate Monica

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I know you've already received two great answers to your question, but I just wanted to point out how you can turn the idea behind your intuition into the correct equation.

First, remember that P(XY)=P(XY)P(Y)P(XY)=P(XY)P(Y)

P(AB)=P(AB)P(B)

We will keep rewriting the right-hand side until we get the desired equation.

The casework in your intuition expands the event A into (AC)(A¬C), resulting in

P(AB)=P(((AC)(A¬C))B)P(B)

As with sets, the intersection distributes over the union:

P(AB)=P((ABC)(AB¬C))P(B)

Since the two events being unioned in the numerator are mutually exclusive (since C and ¬C cannot both happen), we can use the sum rule:

P(AB)=P(ABC)P(B)+P(AB¬C)P(B)

We now see that P(AB)=P(ACB)+P(A¬CB); thus, you can use the sum rule on the event on the event of interest (the "left" side of the conditional bar) if you keep the given event (the "right" side) the same. This can be used as a general rule for other equality proofs as well.

We re-introduce the desired conditionals using the second equation in the second paragraph:

P(A(BC))=P(ABC)P(BC)
and similarly for ¬C.

We plug this into our equation for P(AB) as:

P(AB)=P(ABC)P(BC)P(B)+P(AB¬C)P(B¬C)P(B)

Noting that P(BC)P(B)=P(CB) (and similarly for ¬C), we finally get

P(AB)=P(ABC)P(CB)+P(AB¬C)P(¬CB)

Which is the correct equation (albeit with slightly different notation), including the fix A. Rex pointed out.

Note that P(ACB) turned into P(ABC)P(CB). This mirrors the equation P(AC)=P(AC)P(C) by adding the B condition to not only P(AC) and P(AC), but also P(C) as well. I think if you are to use familiar rules on conditioned probabilities, you need to add the condition to all probabilities in the rule. And if there's any doubt whether that idea works for a particular situation, you can always expand out the conditionals to check, as I did for this answer.


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+1. I think you extracted the equation that OP tried to intuit: P(AB)=P(ACB)+P(A¬CB).
A. Rex

Thanks! That was the main point I wanted to make, but couldn't figure out a high-level explanation why the intersection goes on the left rather than the right, so I used formulas instead. Also, I just noticed you were the one who pointed out the mistake in OP's formula, so I credited you for that. (I probably wouldn't have noticed either, lol.)
YawarRaza7349

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Probabilities are ratios; the probability of A given B is how often A happens within the space of B. For instance, P(rain|March) is the number of rainy days in March divided by the number of total days in March. When dealing with fractions, it makes sense to split up numerators. For instance,

P(rain or snow|March)=(number of rainy or snowy days in March)(total number of days in March)=(number of rainy days in March)(total number of days in March)+(number of snowy days in March)(total number of days in March)=P(rain|March)+P(snow|March)

This of course assumes that "snow" and "rain" are mutually exclusive. It does not, however, make sense to split up denominators. So if you have P(rain|February or March), that is equal to

(number of rainy days in February and March)(total number of days in February and March).

But that is not equal to

(number of rainy days in February)(total number of days in February)+(number of rainy days in March)(total number of days in March).

If you're having trouble seeing that, you can try out some numbers. Suppose there are 10 rainy days in February and 8 in March. Then we have

(number of rainy days in February and March)(total number of days in February and March)=(10+8)/(28+31)=29.5%

and

(number of rainy days in February)(total number of days in February)+(number of rainy days in March)(total number of days in March)=(10/28)+(8/31)=35.7%+25.8%=61.5%

The first number, 29.5%, is the average of 35.7% and 25.8% (with the second number weighted slightly more because there is are more days in March). When you say P(A|B)=P(A|B,C)+P(A|B,¬C) you're saying that x1+x2y1+y2=x1y1+x2y2, which is false.


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If I go to Spain, I can get sunburnt.

P(sunburnt|Spain)=0.2
This tells me nothing about getting sunburnt if not going to Spain, let's say
P(sunburnt|¬Spain)=0.1
This year I'm going to Spain, so
P(sunburnt)=0.2
Letting B=Ω, this is, P(B)=1, your intuition would imply
P(A)=P(A|C)+P(A|¬C)
which by the previous argument, isn't neccesarily true.
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